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Good morning. Good afternoon or good evening depending on where you are. My name is Jenny Rose Halperin and I'm the executive director of library features, and we are co hosting this webinar with the Internet Archive and are beyond excited to have our two illustrious scholars with us today. So I'm going to start by by suggesting that folks can share their questions in the q amp a. So here are some example questions you might be asking in the q amp a section, you can also upvote questions if you want to see them asked you can respond to questions, we'll have plenty of time for q amp a at the end, a little bit over 30 minutes. So there's plenty of time for your questions. So again, my name is Jenny Rose Halperin and I'm the executive director of library futures library futures is a new advocacy organization that's standing up for the rights of libraries in the digital age, we work on technology, education, advocacy and community. And we're always welcoming new coalition members. Chris Freeland is also here from the Internet Archive. And he will be sharing links throughout along with other folks from the Internet Archive, like Caitlin Olson, and they will be. We will all be co hosting as well throughout so if you have any questions, and definitely please feel free to drop them in the chat will also be dropping links in the chat throughout. I am very excited to introduce our speakers. Michelle Wu, Blake Reed, and our moderator Amanda Lewandowski. Blake Reed studies teaches and practices at the intersection of law policy and technology. He is a clinical professor at Colorado law, where he serves as the director of the Samuel Senglushko technology law and policy clinics TLPC, and as the faculty director of the telecom and platforms initiative at the silicon flat, flat iron center. Michelle Wu was the associate dean for library services law library director and professor of law at the Georgetown University Law Center. Prior to Georgetown she served in multiple administrative library and faculty capacities at three other law schools, George Washington University, the University of Houston and Hofstra. She has a BA from the University of California at San Diego, a JD from West from California Western School of Law, and an M library from the University of Washington. The original, the originator of the legal theory underpinning control digital lending. Michelle has also talked talk copyright and copyright licensing and regularly speaks at library conferences on these topics. She has authored or edited several dozen publications on copyright library management and leadership, and has provided leadership training for prospective directors and associate dean. Amanda live and Dowski is an associate professor at Georgetown law, where her scholarship examines how intellectual property law can be used creatively to address challenging social issues that cross cut privacy and technology, such as non consensual pornography biased artificial intelligence, secret surveillance technology, and invasive face surveillance. Thank you so much for joining us everyone and I'm sorry if you could hear it's a bit of an occupational hazard of working from home. But I am sorry if you could hear my dog behind me, who was walking around who's been walking around through this very short intro. And so I'm so excited to hand it over to Amanda to kick it off and discuss these two new papers and scholarship in copyright librarianship accessibility and the law and technology. So over to you Amanda Thank you so much. Hello, I am so delighted to be here with all of you but especially with Michelle and Blake whose work I just admire so darn much and I cannot wait to get into. So I'm actually going to turn it over to them in just a second to speak about their own work because who better to introduce it than the authors themselves, but to set up that conversation. I just want to say that Michelle and Blake both take very different approaches to the challenges that are created by copyright maximalism but there are a few common approaches spanning copyrights heated history, it's problematic present, and it's possibly fantastic future. And there are also a few shared themes between the two papers and I love a triplet as you just saw. So we'll be addressing those three themes throughout this conversation. And those are overarching going to be policies, capitalism, and accessibility doesn't that sound like fun. And so let's dive in and I'm going to turn it over straight to Michelle to share a little bit more about her work. Amanda, so there's more time for Q&A. I'm not going to recap the entire paper but really just focus on two major points. The first point is on the purpose of copyright, which has always been the creation of dissemination of information. And that's what this flows very logically from the design of our nation and our government, which best powers in the people, not a monarch. So that's in all of our interests for us to have informed voters and in order to be informed they actually have to have access to information. The founders and Congress decided that the best way to generate and spread information was through a balance of private and public interest. With the set of private interest, that really is the author's interest. So copyright grants limited control rights to the author, and that's essentially for her to generate income from selling her work. And that hopefully incentivizes her to create more. But after a copyrighted item is sold, the private interest in that item is exhausted, leaving only the public interest in consumption and the further spread of information. Now we will note there are a few exceptions, mostly in the public use of copyrighted work, but that is beyond the scope of this paper so I'm going to skip over that for now. In practice, what does the balance between private and public interest mean in copyright? It means that the author makes money when she sells a copy of her work, say a book, but that the purchaser, once they purchased it, can lend, donate, resell, destroy or bequeath it without the author's permission. This downstream usability means that an item's usefulness expands far beyond that original purchase. The key is that copyright was never intended to be a barrier to information. Its balance was designed to maximize both the creation and spread of information. So the second point in my paper is about how major publishers in books, music, television and movie publishing are engaged in a pattern of practice that undermines this very purpose of copyright. And I'm going to talk about just one example here, but I'm happy to talk about others in a Q&A if there's interest. The example that I'll look at is licensing. So major publishers in these fields have largely eliminated the ability to purchase a copy of the work when it comes to electronic content. So sometimes this is hidden in a way that I think users don't really realize what they're losing. So, for example, when you buy an e-book on Amazon, you actually have not purchased that book. What you have done is you're licensing access to that book. Underterms that Amazon says it can change at any time without notice, including deleting that book entirely from your library. Many of the public interests that I mentioned at the start, the right to lend, donate, resell, bequease, are excluded or limited in these licenses, which means that many of the paths designed by copyright to allow for widespread downstream use, particularly by those who do not have the personal means to buy it at its original price, those paths have been cut off. In addition, many common personal uses, such as recording a TV program, are also prohibited. They would normally be legal under copyright under fair use, but in a service like Netflix, recording that program is considered a violation of its contract terms. The replacement of selling with licensing doesn't just harm the public or individual users, but also offers. The e-books available at your public library, for example, often cost many times more than the cost of that print equivalent or the cost of that e-book to an individual user. And these licenses usually expire after a certain number of uses, say 24 or after a certain period of time, say a year, which means that the same content has to be repurchased repeatedly to retain access. As the library's budget does not magically increase to accommodate these arbitrarily increased costs, the library ends up spending the same amount of money while obtaining fewer books. This means that fewer authors' works are being purchased, and fewer authors will give a non-monetary benefit of heightened exposure to their work through library access. While some authors, specifically best-selling ones, will undoubtedly benefit from this type of licensing, most authors won't. The publishers, on the other hand, can make a great deal more money off fewer titles while also reaping the benefits of lower costs of e-production and e-distribution. Now, I've already detailed some of the short-term costs of these licenses, the loss of all those downstream uses, but I want to mention or emphasize the fact that the poor are disproportionately harmed, as many may have no means to gain access to these resources without the secondhand uses now prohibited by publishers. The long-term costs fall on everyone. E-books cannot be preserved under these licenses, so e-books that are available today may not be available tomorrow. The only, if the only information that's available to us is what publishers decide to make available, and which we or our libraries can afford to pay for. That day, that information will necessarily be a small subset of all information published. Society will lose the ability to explore history, to know what was real or what was published at any given time. In summary, copyright was intended to further the creation and dissemination of information, but major publishers have used it to do the exact opposite, depressing information's preservation and spread, and the corruption of copyright should concern everyone. Thank you. Thank you. Amazing. I'm so excited to dive into this piece, but first I want to put it into conversation with Blake's piece and I'm going to let Blake say a few words about his work before we dive into the amazing synergies and overlap between the two. So Blake, over to you. Hey, thanks, Amanda, and thanks, Michelle, for the wonderful presentation and I hope folks will check out Michelle's paper, which if you haven't seen Chris has linked in the chat. Also, just wanted to say thanks to everybody at the archive and Library Futures for putting this together. And I should offer a quick disclaimer up front, which is that I'm speaking only for myself and not for any of my clients or my clinic. So, this paper is a little bit more specific than the topic that Michelle brought up and it's diving in on this specific intersection of disability and accessibility and copyright. And the goal I have with this paper is to better articulate the role that copyright law plays in the accessibility of creative works and the prevailing narrative around this stuff is pretty copyright centric that copyright exceptions and limitations are really essential to ensuring the accessibility of creative works. And for anyone that's followed the Marrakesh Treaty, this is the sort of discourse around the Marrakesh Treaty, that by bringing into effect a series of national laws that include limitations and exceptions to transform books into braille and alternate format copies that we're going to end the so called book famine that exists for braille readers and for other folks who rely on different kinds of accessible formats to be made. And it centers the conversation around permission from rights holders and from publishers in particular. And I found is I've done a lot of work in this area that there's not a lot of focus on the threshold question of why does accessibility or what is copyright gets suffused into accessibility policy in the first place. And this is a common question when I talk with folks who are whose primary concern is with disability rights. Why are we talking about copyright? Why are we here? Because the real goal is about how we make books accessible and how we make the various social structures, whether that's education, our work, our culture, our entertainment or democracy or whatever else that books enable to make them accessible. Why aren't we talking about that? Why are we spending so much time talking about copyright? So in this paper, I did a historical review of two case studies, one diving into tactile printing or braille, sort of the most common version of that. And closed captioning of television programming and I'll just talk about the braille example for a second, happy to get into the other one in the Q&A. And so the findings that I did as I went into the history of braille and tactile printing policy in this country about why copyright and accessibility got wrapped up with each other. I got to triple it, Amanda. So number one, we've got this non economic and it's not really even a moral rights driven insistence on the part of publishers, not authors but publishers, to be asked permission, even when they've got no interest in withholding it. So you see this real interest in being asked permission. That's number one. Number two, I think you see proximity of the creation of braille books to the growth of copyright maximalism and permission culture and policy making institutions and the Library of Congress and the Copyright Office in particular. So it turns out that the National Library Service for the Blind ends up being operated by the Library of Congress and comes into ascendancy right around the same time that the Library of Congress plays, starts to play a more pivotal role in copyright policy because of its housing of the Copyright Office. So proximity to institutions, number two. And then the third one is the focus of the disability rights movement through the 1970s through the early 1990s culminating with the Americans with Disabilities Act on places of public accommodation and government services. So schools, libraries and other intermediaries for copyrighted works and not copyright holders themselves as the locus for where do we do accessibility. We don't expect publishers to do it. We expect libraries to do it. We expect schools to do it. We expect other third parties to do it. And so I think those three factors, the sort of the insistence on permission, the proximity to policy making institutions that really care about copyright and this focus on third party accessibility are what brings us there. So basically, we see this all really materialized in the legislative hearings for the 1976 Copyright Act. We see these demands, publisher demands for permission. And we actually get this codified in Section 710 of the Copyright Act, which is the basically the Copyright Office gets to create standard forms for publishers to grant the office with permission. And then we see a couple of decades of that not really working of delays in braille books being created by the National Library Service. And so we finally make permission compulsory with the Chafee Amendment to the Copyright Act. And the Chafee Amendment is basically the first kind of specific exception limitation that we see in US law. And that forms the basis, at least in significant part of the Marrakesh Treaty and its subsequent updates in the United States. So in other words, we lay the Marrakesh Treaty, which is now coming into effect being implemented in countries all over the world. And what it really does is it brings us back to the status quo of kind of pre-Civil War policy around braille books. It sort of takes copyright out of a place that copyright wasn't at the beginning. And so I think we talk about it as groundbreaking and as bringing an end to the book, but it really sort of just brings us back to where we started. And we've got all of these other problems. How do we pay for book accessibility? How do we pay for the ecosystem around book accessibility? Who should internalize the cost? What is the role that publishers should play beyond being asked permission and giving permission? And what we see as a result is we still have enormous gaps in the availability of accessible books and the book famine remains very real. And I'll just say, and I'll wind this up, that we see the opposite with captioning, which happens in another institution, the Federal Communications Commission, that's far away from policy that bypasses third parties and goes to the industry directly for accessibility obligations. And we see pretty widely different results. So I'll just wind up and say, you know, we focus on copyright limitations and exceptions as this necessary legacy of centralizing accessibility obligations with intermediaries. But negotiating permission shouldn't be our only focus. It's really cost free to industrial rights holders to give permission and that permission doesn't solve the broader economic barriers to making works accessible. And more broadly, I think it underscores that the copyright system is not always really fit for solving access as a public good, as Michelle laid out at the beginning. We had pretty grand visions for what copyright would do as this engine of democracy. And I think it fails at that purpose when we center copyright and make copyright the only lens through which we solve these problems. And so I urge in the paper, de-centering copyright in our policymaking approaches, and think about copyright holders as potentially being responsible directly for providing public goods. All right, I think I've gone too long. So Amanda, I'll stop there and hand it back to you. You didn't go too long at all. That was that was perfect. Let me later. Okay, so let's get both of y'all in the conversation. We're going to do some Wild West stuff so you can both chime in whenever. Okay, so before so you both kind of took us on a like a little copyright journey from the purpose of copyright, which you both defined differently to where we are today and I'm going to take us even beyond that to copyright's potential future. But I want to go back to the beginning and dive into copyright's kind of heated historical context, which you both address in your papers from different perspectives. So we know how the Constitution describes the purpose of copyright. Michelle, you defined it as the creation and dissemination of information and Blake, you framed it more as accessibility. So how have these purposes historically informed copyright policy and if you want to get really specific and concrete, what is a key example of a policy or case law decision that promotes the purposes that y'all those to envision. I actually think we might both name I could be wrong about this like that I think about happy trust case is actually a good illustration of what I'm trying to balance all the interesting copyright. Yeah, yeah, jump in. I want you to both say why if you both agree with that. Yeah, I completely agree. So I mean, I think back to, you know, the progress clause and I actually don't think there's that much differentiation between what Michelle and I are saying is the as the sort of framing of the progress clause, whether that's about to be the interest of the First Amendment and in facilitating that that sort of discussion around democracy, that sort ofdaughter that we expect in the United States, and I think the reason Michelle I want to take words out of your mouth but I imagine the reason and we both go to HathiTrust is, you know, fair use is where a lot of the rubber meets the road on this stuff. And HathiTrust is a case that really underscores that and it underscores it in a lot of different ways, right? And Michelle, I'll defer to you to talk to the library piece of it, but the accessibility piece of it is basically saying, hey, we recognize through the creation of the, or the enactment of the Americans with Disabilities Act and various other disability laws that making works accessible is consonant with fair use and consonant as, you know, in an indirect way with the First Amendment. And so that sort of gets us straight back to that constitutional bedrock. And that was one of the first times we've seen a court really specifically recognize and say, hey, you know, we've got directives from other areas of policy, not just copyright, that sort of lead us to those results. So that's sort of my rationalization of the whole thing. Michelle, I don't know what you think. Yeah, and I agree entirely with Lake that I don't think that our approaches are really all that different. The only way that it can feed democracy is if the information is actually accessible to everyone, not just to a subset of the population that has to be accessible to everyone. So I do agree with that general principle. In terms of HathiTrust, I actually think it doesn't go far enough, but the reason why I would name it is because it does recognize that fair use recognizes, again, I should say that fair use allows for uses that the authors might or copyright owners might want to stop, that there are some uses that are so publicly beneficial that it warrants taking even the entirety of the work, even making multiple copies of the work, even making works freely available to people. That can go to the very, very extreme of doing that without paying an author additional fees. And fair use can actually accommodate that, which I think is what copyright was about. Yeah, and for the folks following along who may not be super familiar with the HathiTrust decision, this was about the digitization of books by a library that served certified disabled patrons so that they could have access to books that might not otherwise be made available by publishers. And there was litigation challenging this digitization that eventually was vindicated under the fair use doctrine, saying that even though this was not totally different in form, it was serving a really important purpose that was fundamentally different than how these books were made to go out into the world. And I think what's so interesting is that this is literally at the intersection of your two papers focus, right? Libraries and disability rights, and this sits right directly in the middle, but also connects exactly what you were saying, right? The dissemination, creation and dissemination, accessibility, they're actually both part of the broader principle of having an informed democracy, which is kind of the ultimate goal of copyright. But we're moving further and further away from that goal, and you both talk about that in your papers in different ways. So could you each pinpoint a place where copyright began to become unmoored from the purposes we've identified? In other words, how did copyright become a barrier to accessing information rather than a means of incentivizing it? Amanda, I wonder if I could take just a threshold question before we get to copyright as a barrier and just say- You can, you are entitled to do so. Thank you. I'm in a very permissioned culture mindset here. I guess the question that I have is, when we look at the progress clause and we look at, so we talked a lot about fair use, but we look at the progress clause, which says we've got this aim that we wanna serve. And I think Michelle articulated that aim really powerfully in her paper. We have never successfully used the progress clause or related constitutional doctrines to examine whether copyright is really succeeding at that purpose, right? We have sort of looked to fair use as a way out of the barriers, but we've never looked at, at least not with any success at the progress clauses, as a check to see, is Congress achieving what it set out to do in creating the copyright system, right? And in other words, and the way that I would look at it, this specific problem I would look at it is, I would say, is the copyright system resulting in books being distributed in accessible formats? And maybe beyond that, is the copyright system working for creators with disabilities as well? So I think before we even get to barriers, we have this threshold failure, which is that the Supreme Court has largely looked at the Copyright Act and said, whatever Congress sort of thinks on that is fine. We're not going to exercise a heavy hand in terms of scrutinizing how the Copyright Act actually works. We're going to leave fair use as the safety valve in a couple of other things, and we'll sort of look at it from there. I don't think Congress has done a particularly good job. And I think in the research I was doing on the 76 Act when it was passed here in looking at accessibility, there was very little questioning of, how is this actually working? All the questioning was really about, is this okay with the publishers, right? Is this, can we craft this in a way that makes the publishers happy? And so I think this broader array of social concerns about the creation of copyrighted works never really gets hashed out in the examination of the Copyright Act. We're only dealing with it after the fact with safety valves like fair use, which is a real problem. I would agree 100% of the way. I mean, I think if you look back at all the major legislation, 1909, 1976, and take a look at the testimony, it has been weighted towards the publishers who technically were not one of the beneficiaries of the Copyright Clause. So it's actually pretty curious to me how much of a role they play. And obviously with the money that's being sent to mobbing right now, that extends that instance even further. But if I had to draw a line in terms of how the law and the law of the law is being used, in terms of where I think it got significantly worse. I agree 100% was like that it never met the promise. It never did exactly what it was supposed to do. And Congress has not been particularly vigilant about trying to make it, to meet, be better, a better fit for those purposes. I would say two things probably. One is the Copyright Extension Act, when the Supreme Court essentially says Congress can expand copyright for as long as it was, as long as it's not forever, and technology. And the reason why I would name technology is because it allowed publishers to essentially put a bunch of prior restraints on copyright, even before we get to the copyright issues, they're able to control the use of the copyright work. And as an example, it is a licensing piece. So there are a lot of actions that are legitimate, that are considered either statutorily legitimate, like resale, or fair use, like the recording and TV program. That publishers can just stop users from doing two license terms. They stop you by contract before you even get to the copyright issues. But they use those licenses, or they argue that they're using licenses to protect copyright. So in that way, technology, I think, ended up having a particularly negative effect, when I actually think it could have been extraordinarily empowering, especially in the case of disabilities. I mean, if you take a look at Amazon, Amazon had text-to-speech technology fairly early on for its books, and the publishers objected to that. Despite the fact that people who wanted to use that feature had purchased that book, they had already paid the copyright order. So technology could have been used to actually create a more equal world. But we have somehow allowed publishers to step in and suppress equality instead. That actually brings me to one of the shared themes of your two papers, even though you come at it from different directions, which is the congressional adoption of policies that continue to privilege copyright owners' interests, including piracy concerns, which you both talk about in your papers, over the public's interest. So if you had to say that there was a policy that most restricted the public access to knowledge, would either of you address the Digital Millennium Copyright Act as a restriction on that, or is there another way to think about the DMCA and its intervention? Because it is, as Michelle alluded to, kind of what got in the way of technology's promise in some ways. And I'm also biased because I'm wearing my Run DMCA sweater, so I want to talk about the DMCA a little bit. Oh, you want to take this one first? So the DMCA is tremendously problematic, or at least the provisions on circumvention or anti-circumvention are particularly problematic, primarily because they do stop all sorts of fair uses. I think that it was a way to accomplish the goal or what the publishers wanted to accomplish or what Congress wanted to accomplish without necessarily making the prohibition against circumvention as broad as it was. For example, they could have built in a fair use exception, that any type of fair use you could actually circumvent as long as you weren't infringing on copyright. But they chose not to do that. And that did, I think, stand in the way of a lot of fair uses. Yeah, I mean, as a longstanding veteran of the Section 1201 exemption process, I will say, there's no shortage of examples of the DMCA getting in the way by sort of standing as a backstop for digital locks that prevent accessibility, that prevent format shifting, that prevent creativity and remix, that prevent security research and repair. And the list goes on of the sort of public goods and very important public goods that can't as a matter of law be produced under the DMCA without wrangling with this incredibly complex process that the Copyright Office administers. On the other hand, I also see that in a lot of those cases, and I think accessibility is a good one, that we're fighting in those to get to a not great result, which is, for example, thinking about ebook accessibility, we're fighting for the ability for a library or for a person with a disability to be able to strip off digital rights management so that they can make a book accessible. That's solving, in my mind, that's solving like a very small part of that problem. And it's a really important part of the problem. It's a threshold part of the problem, but it doesn't get us to an accessible book, right? It doesn't guarantee that the resources are gonna be there on the other side to make a library's whole collection accessible or that they're not still gonna have to go jump through hoops. And seeing the demonstrations of how some of that works, when you compare what it's like if you are just trying to buy a book on the Kindle store, buy a book from Apple Books or whatever, or just to go get a book from a library, and then looking through the process that somebody with a disability has to go through, all those extra steps that it takes, and copyright is one of them, and it's an important one, but there's all these additional steps. And I think that resonates with a lot of the other areas that we're talking about here, right? I think a lot of the things that we frame as copyright problems are also consumer protection problems. They are, this is, Michelle, you talked a lot about terms of service, right? This is just people being sold things that they don't understand how they're gonna work and what they're gonna be allowed to do with it until after the fact, until after they press buy on it, and then suddenly they can't do something that they're used to, or it gets taken away, it gets taken out of their library, the license gets revoked. And I think if you talk to most people, they don't think, well, gosh, I ought to be able to go in there and hack my way out of it. I think the first thing that they think about is, gee, I got ripped off. Like that really stinks, and I would like my money back, or I would like my book back. Like, can't somebody come in and fix it? So copyright gives us this kind of libertarian way, or when we think about limitations and exceptions, gives us this libertarian way of solving these problems. And that's often like the best we've got, right? But I also think there's this additional step, which is like, we deserve better. Like these systems should work better than this. Like books should be born accessible. Like, you know, like work should be licensed on friendly terms so that you can go do the stuff with your books that you used to do with your books. Like, why can't we buy things that work that way? And I'm not sure copyright, either on the front end or on limitations and exceptions, has the answers to all of those questions. I don't think it has the answer to huge numbers of those questions. One of the ones Michelle brought up is contract law, which I think is very important in this shift away from ownership to licensing, especially in the digital context. But like, you've also brought up consumer protection law. Your paper talks about telecommunications law. What are some of the other, like this kind of brings us to from 1700 to the 90s when we were talking about the DMCA to the present, right? The problematic present of copyright existence. What are some of the other areas of law that are complicating the copyright question and maybe getting in the way of us being able to come to a place where works are more broadly accessible? I mean, a lot of the fall under the consumer protection, that's like mentioned, like privacy. Privacy is implicated in the use of all that. Like Amazon is tracking every single keystroke you're making on that Kindle. They know what you're doing, what you're reading, how long you spend on a book. So privacy rights are involved as our confidentiality and big data issues, I think. Yeah, and Michelle, totally cosigned privacy, cosigned contract law, obviously. I always think when we think about internet law, the original sins of internet law lie in the seven circuits cases around click wrap and shrink wrap contract, which allow the relationships between rights holders and users to basically be set in totally unfavorable to the user, totally friendly to the publisher terms. I think that factors into our modern conversation about antitrust law and competition, right? We see a lot of, in the same way that power gets exercised in the contract, it gets exercised by folks who have centralized power, our accumulated power through a lack of competition. Just real quick on telecommunications law, I actually point that out as an example of where, and I do this in the paper talking about closed captioning as kind of a countervailing story, of where it actually can go right, which is, the FCC in the 90s basically implements closed captioning regulations that require all television to be closed captioned with some exceptions and goes basically to the television industry. And so the broadcast cable satellite companies and the studios, like you have to do this, figure it out. Here's all the details. We're gonna sort of make you do it. And the funny thing about that one is, is actually copyright comes up, right? The rights holders actually stepped in or like, boy, I don't know, like, you know, this sort of interferes with, you know, some of them were rights holders themselves. This interferes with our autonomy. Some distributors stepped in and said, well, this is gonna cause, get us in trouble for violating other people's copyright. If we add captions to things, like copyright's the real problem. And the FCC, bless its heart, is not like really close to copyright law. And basically its response is like, well, we don't know about all this copyright law stuff, but we assume you guys are contracting around all this stuff anyway. So go figure it out. Like, we're not gonna like let you blow up this really important set of public goods that Congress has enshrined in the law by all of this, you know, this stuff about copyright. Like, go contract around it or fair use, whatever. Like, we don't care. And sort it out. And so I think that shows an example of where we can focus on what is the public good that we're actually trying to achieve here and how do we get there rather than focusing on the sort of means to get there as being centered in copyright. Because the problem with using copyright is, another second theme of both of your papers is that it was capitalism all along. Profits are driving a lot of this policymaking in a negative direction away from the public interest. So how have the profits of whether it's publishers or producers or other copyright owners, how have those driven policies and practices that don't serve the public interest? They either prevent it from being served or just don't advance it. Bell, you're on first now. Yeah, so I was just gonna go. It's not all, speaking for books particularly, it gets more complicated when we're looking at music and movies and television. The thing for books, it is not all publishers. I mean, there are some publishers that do actually have models that work that are not driven by profit. We know about university presses, for example, which often do not have the same model. But where you see the most destructive practices is in the for profit areas and with the major publishers who do make most of their income off of individual sale. And when you take a look at it, I mean, I don't really think that I have to explain the publishers themselves have said, essentially they like the idea of licensing. They like the idea of cutting off the ability to buy a book because they can insure through licensing that every end user has to pay for it. There is no second hand use and that is good for their bottom line. So how profit actually, I think gets in the way of copyright is, it just, if your purpose is to make as much money as possible, you're not going to want to have fair use. You're not going to want to have any of the downstream uses. You simply want to get money by every user. And that I think is just not something that's harmonious with the concept of copyright. Yeah, I agree. I think the, you know, there's so many places where the kinds of fair uses we're talking about here can be seen to cut into revenue streams. But I also think it's about, as we talk about things like privacy and accessibility, consumer protection and so forth, keeping the conversation centered on, we don't want fair use and you're going to have to fight for every inch of it. And you might emerge at the end of it with a little bit of what you think you deserve. Keeps the conversation away from the production of those public goods, privacy, accessibility, you know, fair transactions and that kind of thing, which are also going to cost money, right? Accessibility costs money, right? It takes resources to put together works in accessible formats. Privacy costs money, right? So much of the revenue around books, for example, is subsidized by, you know, collecting data, right? I mean, or look at video, right? Take a look at what Netflix does in terms of viewing habits and how it uses that to focus its forward-looking development and all of that kind of stuff. So I also think the focus, keeping the conversation focused on that individual transaction and then sort of like what you're allowed to do after it keeps the conversation away from, how should this be? What should public policy look like around these industries? Because what's at the end of the rainbow for those conversations is not gonna be good for the revenue of these industries either. No, but before I move to the end of the rainbow, and I promise we will go there, what do y'all think the biggest threat that's currently posed by copyright serving the public interest is, or to, I guess, copyright itself as essentially? Is it licensing shifts? Is it the permission culture? Those are two of the ones you've mentioned. Or is it some other secret option letter C threat that we haven't talked about yet? I'll take a stab at this one first. I mean, so I think of something that Cindy Cohn from EFF, or the director of EFF for many years, and still, I think, told me one time, which is, you gotta stop looking at the world through copyright goggles. I've always thought about that. And I actually think that is a pretty existential problem for the sort of copyright industries. And I think for the constituencies that they serve as well, to sort of think of whatever the problem is, copyright is going to be the solution. And twiddling some bit of copyright, whether we're talking about the terms on which we can license, the contours of fair use, whether it's the ability to litigate copyright claims, think about the case act and the tribunal, or thinking about whatever other substantive contour of copyright is the way of solving, for example, things like the ability for creators to make a living, right? Thinking, oh, hello. Thinking about the ability to solve all of the public policy problems that they face, that their communities face as well. And assuming that we can find the answers to that in the limited array of levers and dials that copyright provides us. And you can see it, right? It's like we have starving artists who can't get health insurance. Instead of talking about health insurance as a problem, or medical care as a problem in this country, we're going to talk about like, you know, monkeying with the royalty rates or something like that, right? We're going to always put it in sort of copyright terms and instead of going at the problems directly. And so I see that as the biggest problem is just being constrained by that lens of copyright and looking through copyright goggles. I do think there actually is quite a bit of action on exactly what Blake's talking about, that everyone is realizing that copyright, copyright can be a barrier, but there are a lot of solutions that are possible outside of copyright. And so I hope that there is attention to that. Within copyright, and actually for a lot of issues, including health care, I actually think that the biggest barrier to real reform, to the effectiveness of copyright, to the effectiveness of pretty much everything, is too much difference to money. It's too much difference to publishers. It's too much difference to business. If we actually look at the welfare of people, if we look at the welfare of society, short-term and long-term, I think we end up coming up with a completely different set of priorities and a completely different set of rules, legislation. But unless that happens, I don't really see anything changing. Yeah, and Michelle, just to underscore, I completely agree within copyright, and I think there are still a huge swath of problems that need to be solved with copyright. The sort of fealty to the interests of industrial rights holders, and not artists either. I feel like we always make this mistake in copyright debates to sort of assume that the industrial rights holders are the same as artists, but just focusing on what the sort of bottom line impact for them is gonna be, and not what is ultimately gonna serve artists, what's ultimately gonna serve readers and viewers and users. Not having that robust conversation, not having all those folks at the table and taking their opinions seriously, that makes it hard to get good copyright policy for the things that copyright is good at solving. And so just total plus one on that. I feel like we spend a lot of time talking about all of the troubles and tribulations that copyright has created for not just creators, and in some ways artists, but also for end users, libraries, for a variety of patrons, for a variety of people. But I don't want us to end on that note, because that seems like a huge bummer. So I wanna get optimistic, and imagine what might go right in copyright's fantastic future. Let's just pretend that there is a fantastic future for copyright, which I know requires us to use our imaginations really robustly. One of the questions I actually had for y'all was, is the best hope for reversing the trend of copyright maximalism de-centering copyright entirely? And you both touched on that in different ways, and it seems like sometimes the answer is yes. But I do have a kind of, like a, just a curious question. Is there any copyright policy that makes you optimistic in any way that currently exists and that could be invoked in the future? Aside from fair use, like when you talk about copyright... Oh, you can use fair use. You can take fair use off the board. No one's stopping you. I mean, I think fair use has a tremendous amount of promise. There is a lot that I think that we actually can do with copyright reward. Justifying it through fair use. The difficulty with that is that anyone who really wants to be creative is going to have to be willing to essentially be sued. Anyone who's willing to be creative, who's willing to test those barriers, those limits, they have to be willing to go through a very, very lengthy court suit, and that is unfortunate. But I would say that I see a great deal of promise in fair use and how flexible it is in adapting to whatever technologies, whatever society, whatever needs come down the pike. It has the ability to do that. Flexibility of fair use for a win. I love alliteration, so I'm even more excited about that particular option. Blake, what do you think? Flexibility of fair use, something else? Now I'm feeling a lot of pressure to come up with my own alliteration, but yeah, totally agree on fair use. I guess the other one I would say is I think about the arcs of these sort of public goods that we've talked about in generally, whether that's consumer protection or privacy or accessibility or competition policy or whatever else. And I see that they have pretty long arcs. And I think about, for example, where the FCC was on closed captioning in the 1970s, right? The FCC had to be sort of dragged into thinking about accessibility. And I think a lot of these public goods that we're talking about in the communities that are associated with them, whether that's people with disabilities or vidders or folks who are repairing stuff or libraries or whoever else, continuing to engage with the machinery of copyright policymaking and continuing to participate in those conversations and to be at the Copyright Office, to be at the Library of Congress, to be engaging with the White House, to be engaging with the IP committees in Congress. I think there's education and there is dialogue that can happen there that has changed how we view things, even looking back to when the DMCA was created 20 years ago and the first raft of sort of tech and IP clinics were created. I think there's a lot more representation in those forums now. And I think that has the potential over time. I'm an optimist that those voices that didn't get brought to the table back in the 90s, back in the 70s, dating way back to the 1909 Act, I think they can get brought to the table. And I'm a believer in trying to have those conversations and trying to find some balance. I think one of the places that we see that sort of potential site of resistance among all of those different coalitions that you just mentioned, Blake, which were so rich and also totally absent from a lot of the conversations throughout copyright history, that we can see potentially influencing the conversation going forward. Another big one is libraries, which is sort of Michelle's incredibly nuanced value act. And like, what is one thing you would love to see libraries pushing for in the future of copyright to add to the conversation that Blake was just saying is being enriched by more people being part of the dialogue at the Copyright Office and the Triennial Rulemakings, or indeed, if there are other potential modifications to copyright law, what would you like to see libraries contributing to that conversation, Michelle? So honestly, what I would like is something that is worldwide, which I'm not entirely sure is possible, but I would actually like a worldwide digital library of all published work, which I think is technically possible. But whether or not laws from different nations get in the way, I think it will. But I certainly think it's possible. I think that what any library cannot do by itself, all libraries can do together and all libraries can do for society. I mean, the preservation of our history, the preservation of publications, it should be important enough to every single nation that we should be willing to invest in it. But we just haven't gotten there yet. What are the possibilities? Jump in. Go Amanda, go, go, go. I'm going to another question. So please continue your line of thought. I was actually going to give a general version of the specific thing that Michelle just said, which is, I think articulating a normative version and executing and iterating on that normative version of what libraries look like in a digital age, what that should mean to the citizens of 2020 and beyond. I think it's critical. I think we're in this very weird time where we don't know exactly what that is. And it seems like the publishers are trying to articulate a world where there are no libraries anymore. Some of the policy moves that I see publishers make are hard to explain other than by... We couldn't have had libraries in the first place if this view had taken hold. So I think articulating that really grand vision that like Michelle just did is so critical for libraries to do to say, this is the place in our digital community that libraries hold and we need a copyright policy to match that. This is not just the library policy of the 1970s. This is the library policy of whatever the future looks like. So I think that's super critical. That actually brings us into a question from the chat. And I'm going to slightly rehash it to give a broader sort of question, which is the person was asking whether a conference akin to the Marrakech Treaty could be possible to justify something like, general user rights or I'm going to include general patron rights. And it's really hard because the Marrakech Treaty was hashed out over such a long period of time and was so deeply embattled among various constituencies over many years in ways it's... It ended up in a place that was really powerful, but it's not necessarily a model of success in terms of its procedure. So what do you think about something that's an international gathering that talks about the rights of users or the rights of patrons? I mean, international law... I'm sorry, go ahead, Michelle. Go ahead, Blake. You go first. International law is tough. It's the time and the resources that it takes to meaningfully engage in that process really, really hard. And I think Marrakech stands as the sort of exception that demonstrates that rule. But I think, you know, one thing you can take away from Marrakech as a success story to the extent... And Marrakech was successful in a number of regards, you know, that we have specific exceptions and limitations around the world for people with disabilities. Now, it's really, really important. And I'd want to underrate the impact of that. I think the critical thing that let Marrakech succeed was having that big vision like the one that Michelle just laid out and saying, this is the library that we need of the future. We had it in Marrakech. We had the right to read. We had ending the book famine. We had those kind of ambitious touchstones that let all of the minutiae of international law and negotiation, copyright minutiae and all of that sort of... At the end of the day, ended up being subordinate to that because it was so hard to argue with the vision that everyone should have the right to read. Right. And so I think having that vision, we need to have a library that has every book available, you know, a universal digital library, that kind of thing. You know, that's the kind of thing that people can understand. And that's the kind of thing that can give birth to these kind of successful international movements. I'm sorry, Michelle, I didn't mean to step on your toes. No, I mean, I think you've phrased it perfectly. And I do think international law is particularly difficult when it comes to copyright simply because it does vary despite all the treaties vary so widely. Just take a look at fair use. It's so uniquely American. Even with fair dealing in other countries, many countries don't have anything like it. So trying to come up with something that works everywhere is difficult. I do think there is a path right now, curiously, that is tied with all the discussions with climate change. Right. We already know that Haiti has once before lost all of its information resources. And I think a hurricane it was. And everyone is at greater risk today than they were yesterday and will be at greater risk tomorrow. So I think an argument can be made that building this National Digital Library is the only way to ensure the preservation of the world's history. Now, whether or not they will ultimately extend the patrons, which is what matters most to me is that we don't just save the information, but it is accessible information. That's because the harder sell by at least think that we can get to the first step of building that library, maybe by essentially holding on to climate change and saying, Listen, this is at least a solution to a partial problem, we should address it now. So to bring that back to copyright law because I think that is all closely related and one of the conversations we're going to have to have or what levers can be pressed to make copyright change by invoking other crises right and I think climate is definitely one of those options. But both of the papers. This is the sort of final theme of the two papers together, is this importance of accessible knowledge right it's no good if it's just preserved somewhere it has to be available to the public in order for it to be useful. And so what is one concrete policy or practice you'd like to see adopted related to copyright law that could increase accessibility for all humankind, or at least all American citizens or all American residents. I asked a stumper I'm sorry I didn't mean to, we have one more question so don't worry I'll ask an easy one next time. I'm not sure I have an answer that late. Yeah, that's a, that's a tough one so so I'm one, one thing related to copyright law to increase accessibility. I mean, I, you know, one, one interesting idea I'm not sure if I if I like this idea but I've heard it enough times in talking about this paper that that I think I throw it out there, which is to think about conditioning copyright protection on the provision of some of the public goods that we've talking talked about right in other words, condition, your receipt of copyright and your ability to assert copyright is a right on your, your, you know, respect for privacy on your, your provision of works in accessible formats, your, you know, your treatment of consumers and that kind of thing in other words like trying to hitch copyright protection and the grant of copyright protection into some of these ideas I think that's kind of an interesting idea I'm not sure I endorse it but since you said I had to do something related to copyright law that's that's the most interesting one I've heard recently. I think that's great. I like that. So, my proposal is, is much more basic and that's to, I think, to reduce copyright back to down to 14 years. If we could reduce the term of copyright protection that would do amazing things for accessibility. Yeah, there's a lot there's a lot of dreamy options that are not totally off the table but not totally on the table that I think it's important to consider and fantasize about in a collective way. So it feels celebratory instead of deeply sad. But that actually brings me to the final question I have, which is going to be a riff on somebody's question which is, what are some of the ways that individuals can meaningfully, meaningfully contribute to these policy discussions involving copyright. Are there ways for individuals to get involved in these conversations to push the needle in one direction towards accessibility. Yeah, I mean I think about, and actually this is a lot of the work that that my student attorneys do and my clinic and Amanda I know that yours, yours do as well, is that the the Copyright Office does a tremendous amount of of studying of these issues from, you know, right now the thing that sticks out the most is, is thinking about extra protections for news publishers and what that, you know, sort of akin to the Australia and your European models. So they do lots of these, these sort of rule makings and studies where they, where they take public comment. And, you know, my experience of the Copyright Office is they sort of expect the rights holders to come in and then they sort of expect the sort of copy leftists of the world to come in and, you know, make the maximalist and minimalist pitches respectively. And what I've seen a number of times over the years is when they hear from people who are really affected by how copyright policy works in their everyday activities, whether that's hearing from librarians about how copyright affects their work, whether that's hearing from people with disabilities or disability services professionals or are hearing from people that are that are trying to repair their stuff or hearing from vidders hearing from remixers hearing from people directly that have this experience with copyright and have something to share. So engaging with that public comment process and providing those real stories that aren't, you know, the, the sort of maximalist minimalist but like here's how this plays out in real life. And I will just say if that's you and you feel like you've, you've got a that story or you've got a better yet a group of people for whom that story is true. I'm always happy to talk to folks about that because sometimes we can see from from paying attention to what the Copyright Office is up to you or what the, the committees in Congress are up to that'd be really powerful to go share that story and that's something that that clinics can help with. Yeah, and before Michelle you're welcome to jump in but I just want to address a second question that was on the queue from somebody else from a different angle which is what can we do as lawyers, recognizing that this is such a political question and such a not a political question the legal sense but a political question in the practical sense. How can we as lawyers be involved and I think Blake has identified one way which is representing individuals or small coalitions that have stories to tell that otherwise would not be told, and that disrupt that maximalist minimalist ping pong expectation at the Copyright Office those stories need to be told and as a lawyer, it can be really powerful for you to represent those groups, although clinics also can do the job. And in the book. So, tough one to all of Blake's comments and as well as yours. And I will say that it's what would be very helpful for lawyers to do I think is just providing a cover it is really not all that easy to understand, I think a lot of authors don't even know what their rights are. So even creating a toolkit for authors to understand how to how to do all sorts of things or what their rights are with their works, I think would be very useful. Also for the general public specifically researchers, I would say, is doing research that actually defunct a lot of the assumptions that publishers base their advocacy on, for example that piracy is so damaging because they've assumed that every pirate copy is actually a lock sale. Whereas I think that can be easily debunked in terms of a lot of people will consume something for free that will not actually pay for it. So I mean where you can do research is about a lot of their assumptions that form their arguments for why copyright should be the way that it should be. I think researchers can actually do that research and confront publishers with hard data. I try to do that research all the time when people leave free donuts in the break room and I never buy them, I personally am trying to fix this problem. One more thing that you can do is be it well yeah be involved with library futures, and one place you can go so two things. Michelle you brought up authors not knowing their rights and one place you can go for more information about that is the Authors Alliance does a really great lot of work, putting out resources for authors to teach them about the contracts of their work. The terms of their agreements and how to negotiate for those things so that's one place you can go, but the other place you can go to be involved, whether it's as an advocate or an individual is being involved with library futures which I think brings me to the end of the panel, so I can kick it over to Jenny, maybe, maybe that was really seamless as a transition, let's do it. Thank you so much, Amanda and thank you waffles as well for your presentation it's important to also thank our pets and thank you of course to Michelle and Blake for this fantastic panel and to Chris and Caitlin for supporting us with links and follow ups throughout. I would love if we could get up our slides just to give a quick shout out to a couple of things so save the dates for us on the set on December 15 will be doing or around December 15 will be doing a discussion on streaming media with some folks from point of view from PBS who are a distributor of streaming media DVD's materials for libraries and have a great library program Kathleen dealer empty from Johns Hopkins University, and with Chris Paulson from OSU very cool panel very excited about it folks have been asking a lot about what we're doing in terms of other media that are not just books. There will be a public domain day big celebration and 12022 and throughout the month of January, we will be celebrating our first birthday here at library features. So once again thank you so much to Blake and Michelle, there's a lot going on at library futures as well that I am so excited to share with everyone, including projects around news publishing will be releasing an international statement of solidarity to support some international work. And if you join the coalition you'll get to be a part of our first conversations around climate, digital libraries and ebooks, which kicked off last Friday with a great conversation with Sarah Hutton from UMass Amherst and Max and a fantastic conversation, and it is no small feat to keep a conversation going over zoom for over an hour and be so captivating and fantastic. So thanks again and have a great morning afternoon or evening. Again, you can reach out to us at info at library futures.net. And we will hopefully see you at future events. Thanks again. 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